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Exclusive
Interview
London - February 2004
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The Boys were one of several bands to rise from the ashes of the
legendary UK punk band London SS. Casino Steel (keyboards/vocals)
had been in the influential Hollywood Brats before meeting Matt
Dangerfield (guitar/vocals), who had converted his rented basement
flat into a home recording studio.
Initially
Andrew Matheson (vocals), Wayne Manor (bass), also from the Hollywood
Brats and Geir Waade (drums), an old friend of Steel's were also
in the band in late 1975. Matheson went home for Christmas and
never came back! After several rehearsals Waade and Manor also
left. They quickly recruited Honest John Plain (guitar/vocals)
who had been at art school in Leeds with Dangerfield. He initially
joined on bass but quickly switched to rhythm guitar. Plain worked
in a T-Shirt factory where he met Duncan "Kid" Reid
(bass/vocals) and Jack Black (drums) who had been at school together.
The Boys made their debut at London's Hope and Anchor Pub in October
1976 and after a handful of gigs they signed to NEMS on 16 January
1977. They became the first punk band to have an album deal (The
Sex Pistols having just been sacked by EMI).
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first single "I Don't Care" c/w "Soda Pressing"
hit the streets on April 12 1977 prior to a national tour
supporting ex-Velvet Underground legend John Cale. At the
end of July 1977 their second single, John Plain's classic
punk anthem "First Time" was released and received
considerable airplay from John Peel before entering the charts
at No.84. Peel also invited The Boys to record a live session
for his show, broadcast on 8 August 1977. |
The
Boys recorded their first album on 5/6 May 1977 but all was not
well. NEMS had employed Pete Gage to produce it and The Boys weren't
happy with his production, considering it did not have the raw,
energetic punk sound they were seeking.
After removing the Hammond Organ, lowering the vocals and adding
some raunchier guitars the album was finally ready for release.
Sadly, due to NEMS' incompetence it took four months to hit the
shops by which time a few other punk bands had released their
debut albums thus wrestling the initiative away from The Boys.
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On 16 August 1977 the Rock'n'Roll world was shook by the news
of Elvis Presley's death. Unfortunately this had dire consequences
for The Boys as NEMS were distributed by RCA, who switched
all their efforts and resources into keeping up the huge posthumous
demand for Elvis' records. The Boys saw both their debut self
titled album (which peaked at No.50) and "First Time"
quickly slip out of the charts as no one could buy them! |
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Christmas The Boys rearranged the "B" and the
"Y" and became The Yobs. For Christmas 1977 they
recorded "Run Rudolph Run" c/w "Worm Song".
The Boys next single, "Brickfield Nights" came
out in February 1978 and was followed a month later by their
second album "Alternative Chartbusters", which
as the title suggests was crammed with potential hit singles.
Unfortunately once again because of distribution problems
NEMS failed to get the album out in time for the tour set
up to promote it!
The Yobs brought out "Rub A Dum Dum" as their
Christmas offering before The Boys released "Terminal
Love" on 7 February 1980, during their UK tour supporting
the Ramones. The old Stones song "You'd Better Move
On" was chosen as their next single before Steel left
the band.
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30 January 1981 their final album "Boys Only" and final
single "Let It Rain" were both released, unfortunately
not to the same critical acclaim as their previous material. Following
the commercial failure of "Boys Only" Safari Records
dropped the band and the band decided to call it a day. They did
temporarily reform with various line-ups to undertake an Italian
tour and two concerts in New York (with the Members). A Spanish
tour which ended with gig in Ibiza Castle high above Ibiza town,
proved to be their final gig for 17 years.
Although The Boys never achieved the commercial success they richly
deserved, their music has refused to die. Campino, lead singer
with highly-successful German punk band Die Toten Hosen and longtime
fan, has championed their music for more than a decade, covering
several songs and introducing new fans to The Boys' unique brand
of music.
On the back of this success The Boys were invited to play some
dates in Japan and finally agreed to come out of retirement. Four
of the original members along with Steve "Vom" Ritchie
(replacing Jack Black on drums) played two hugely successful dates
on 31 July and 1 August 1999. Further album releases tempted The
Boys to play at the Holidays in the Sun Festival in Bergara, Spain
on 23 September 2000 with the same line up as Japan.
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Their
first UK date in 20 years followed on 6 July 2001 at the Holidays
In The Sun punk festival at Morecambe and The Boys were featured
in BBC's regional news programme "North West Tonight".
Further offers followed and The Boys played their first-ever
German gig in Dusseldorf on 21 December with TV Smith of the
Adverts as one of the support acts.
In 2002 The Boys were invited by Die Toten Hosen to play at
their end of tour "Grill Party" in Loreley, Germany.
The Boys appeared in front of 5,000 fans on Friday 6 September
and joined Die Toten Hosen on stage the following evening
in front of 20,000 fans for a joint rendition of "First
Time" and "Brickfield Nights". |
There continues to be plenty of speculation of further Boys dates
and even the possibility of an album of new Boys material being
recorded. Although The Boys will never become a working band again
they are far from forgotten and their cult following continues
to grow with many new musicians citing The Boys as major influences
on their careers.
Check now this exclusive interview with The Boys:
Portal:
(for Matt Dangerfield) I know you were playing on some other bands
much before the punk explosion of 1977. And I know you also run
a studio before forming The Boys. Tell us a little bit on how
was the London rock scene just before that explosion and how was
to have met guys like Mick Jones, Tony James, Gene October and
Billy Idol, and also about the honour to have bands like The Damned,
The Clash, Generation X and the Sex Pistols recording in your
studio?
Matt: To call it a recording studio is a bit of an exaggeration.
It was an old coal cellar under the road only just big enough
to fit a drum kit and a couple of amps and we had one of the first
Teak 4-track tape recorders. The pop scene then was insipid disco
and the rock scene was all pomp rock like Genesis and the tail
end of pub rock. I met those guys because we all wanted to be
in bands but wanted to do something different, something a bit
different. I must admit that it didn't feel much like an honour
at the time.
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Portal:
(for Matt) Even being part of all that "gold"
generation of punk rock, The Boys were and are always quoted
as the "punk rock Beatles". What do you think
of that? And why is that so?
Matt: I suppose we were given that label because
we were a bit more melodic and had more harmonies than most
of the other bands. We were happy with that.
Portal: (for Matt) Were the Beatles really an influence
for the band? What were the main bands influencing The Boys
in the beginning?
Matt: I was certainly a Beatle fan along with the
Stones, Bob Dylan and other 60s stuff. I was also fond of
Velvet Underground and some of the early American punk like
the Flaming Groovies and Iggy Pop.
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Portal:
(for Matt) Have you ever thought the band could overcome the limitations
of the "punk label" and become a real world success
in the rock and roll scene? If so, when did you think of that?
And why it could not happen?
Matt: Of course I did, that's why you start a band and
try to make records. I don't know why it didn't happen but we
had fun trying at least.
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Portal:
(for Matt) What were the main friend bands playing with The
Boys in the beginning you wished you could play again with
them now in 2004?
Matt: Bands I remember being good were The Heartbreakers,
The Damned, Vibrators and Wire.
Portal: (for Matt) In the beginning of the 80`s, there
was a new generation of punk bands with faster and aggressive
songs and lyrics, which was called later as "hardcore".
These bands were also having more focus on political and social
issues. During that time how was the behaviour of the audience
when The Boys used to play with "hardcore" bands
in the same bill? Was there any bad reactions or something
like that?
Matt: I don't know. We had no experience of that because
we didn't come across that hard core audience. We were mostly
playing abroad at that time.
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Portal:
(for Matt) Talking about these policital and social
issues, I guess the band was never so attracted to sing
about those things, prefering to focus on day life and youth
issues. Was it the best choice for the band?
Matt: You're right we weren't interested in those
issues. Doing what you believe in is always the best choice
so we made the right choice.
Portal: (for Matt) ) Lets talk a little bit of song's
meanings. It seems the song "Cast of Thousands"
is a kind of a ode to soccer. How was this song conceived
and which soccer teams the guys in the band support?
Matt: We were originally asked to write a theme song
for a film about football hooligans. It was never used or
the film didn't come out. John and myself are Leeds Utd,
Cas and Jack are Arsenal and Duncan is Man Utd I think.
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Portal:
(for Matt) When did you start playing guitar and what was your
first guitar? And what models/brands of guitars you like most?
Matt: I
started playing my older brother's guitar when I was ill in bed
about 16 years old. My first gtr was an old acoustic hand-me-down
from him. Fave gtrs are Fender Telecaster for recording and Gibson
Les Paul Junior for live.

Portal: (for Matt) Do you know anything about Brazilian
rock or punk rock scene? Any Brazilan bands you know or something
like that?
Matt: Sorry, no.
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Portal:
(for Matt) I noticed you are organising an event called The
Global Battle Of The Bands. Tell us a little bit about it.
Matt: It's a reaction to all the Pop idol -style karaoke
crap that TV companies are giving us. It's about real bands
playing real music live.
Portal: (for Honest John Plain) Who gave you the inspiration
for writting "First Time"?
John Plain: Nobody and there was no girl involved either,
it was just me writing a pop/punk song. I was trying to write
songs for the first Boys album and it just came into my head.
I realised that to break through the Steel/Dangerfield songwriting
stranglehold I had to write a really good song to get it on
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Portal:
(for John Plain)There are some beautiful songs you wrote together
with former Lurkers guitar player, Pete Stride. Maybe the masterpiece
of this partnership was "New Guitar in Town". Is there
any chance we can see you both working together again? Where and
how is Pete today?
John Plain: Of course I would like to work with Pete again
but I don't think there's any chance at all as Pete has given
up on the music business. I haven't seen him for more than 5 years
and the last time I saw him it was only very briefly. When I spoke
to Arturo Bassick in Morecambe he told me that after finishing
a tour Pete simply said he wasn't going to play anymore and he
was very surprised when Arturo took the Lurkers on the road by
himself. Pete still lives with his Mum in Ikenham, near Heathrow
Airport.

John Plain with Marcio Faveri on HITS 2003
Portal: (for John Plain) You went on an European solo tour
last year in November. Who were the other guys in your band and
how was the gigs?
John Plain: My old mate from the Crybabys Robbie Rushton
played drums and Mat Sargent from Chelsea and Sham 69 was on bass
guitar. The gigs were fantastic and although they were in small
venues we went down a storm. Mariano Asch did a fantastic job
putting the tour together for me and we're looking to go back
to Europe in the late summer, maybe playing some larger venues
next time. Robbie and Mat are great guys and such fun to be with,
we had a fantastic time together on tour. We would really like
to record an album together and hopefully later in the year we
will do so!
Portal: (for John Plain) Any chances for some shows in
South America in 2004?
John Plain: I'm hoping to talk to Mariano in the next couple
of days regarding some shows in South America later this year
and we'd all love to come to Brazil and play too!
Portal: (for John Plain) Do you think of releasing a new
solo album, following the two you have released so far? When can
we expect that?
John Plain: I would love to record another album and have
already written 9 or 10 brand new songs for it. If I record a
new album it will be with Robbie and Mat and I would like to record
it in Argentina again, maybe coinciding with a tour of South America.
I suppose it would be another pop/rock guitar orientated album
as that's the way I tend to write my songs. Mind you I have been
working on some other styles of late so you never know.

Portal: (for John Plain) Do you know anything about Brazilian
rock or punk rock scene? Any Brazilan bands you know or something
like that?
John Plain: Unfortunately I don't but if I come to South
America later in the year I'll hopefully play in Brazil and I
can find out a little more about the Brazilian scene. I would
love to come to Brazil!
Portal: (for John Plain) When did you start playing guitar
and what was your first guitar? And what models/brands of guitars
you like most?
John Plain: I was a late starter and only started playing
guitar when I went to Art College when I was about 17 or so. My
first ever guitar was one my Mum bought me from a department store.
I then met Matt Dangerfield and he became my friend basically
because he liked the look of my acoustic guitar! Matt showed me
my first few chords and I went on from there. My favourite guitar
live is a Les Paul and in the studio a Les Paul Fender Telecaster.
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